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|English={{bcaverse|Padmakara2006|9.110}}In reply to this, Shantideva says that when phenomena are investigated and are found to be without true existence, and when it is ascertained with certainty that they cannot be characterized as produced or unproduced, analysis itself ceases to have an identifiable object or basis. When there is no longer any object or basis to act as a target, no analyzing subject will arise to focus on it. All concepts are stilled, and the analysis itself subsides like ripples on the water. This is called the “natural nirvana in the state of dharmata.”{{pagebreak|369|The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech}}
|English={{bcaverse|Padmakara2006|9.110}}In reply to this, Shantideva says that when phenomena are investigated and are found to be without true existence, and when it is ascertained with certainty that they cannot be characterized as produced or unproduced, analysis itself ceases to have an identifiable object or basis. When there is no longer any object or basis to act as a target, no analyzing subject will arise to focus on it. All concepts are stilled, and the analysis itself subsides like ripples on the water. This is called the "natural nirvana in the state of dharmata.”{{pagebreak|369|The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech}}
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002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar/1866 ID: 002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar <br> Date: 10 June 2022 <br> Creator: Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation

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If phenomena are truly analyzed,

No basis for analysis remains. And when the object is removed, the subject too subsides.

That indeed is said to be nirvāṇa.

In reply to this, Shantideva says that when phenomena are investigated and are found to be without true existence, and when it is ascertained with certainty that they cannot be characterized as produced or unproduced, analysis itself ceases to have an identifiable object or basis. When there is no longer any object or basis to act as a target, no analyzing subject will arise to focus on it. All concepts are stilled, and the analysis itself subsides like ripples on the water. This is called the "natural nirvana in the state of dharmata.”[p.370]The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech
Blankleder, Helena, and Wulstan Fletcher (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech: A Detailed Commentary on Shantideva's Way of the Bodhisattva. By Kunzang Pelden. Boston: Shambhala Publications, 2010.

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9

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110

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705

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2.2.2.4.2.3.

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1866

Tibetan

དཔྱད་བྱ་རྣམ་པར་དཔྱད་བྱས་ན། །

རྣམ་དཔྱོད་ལ་ནི་རྟེན་ཡོད་མིན། ། རྟེན་མེད་ཕྱིར་ན་མི་སྐྱེ་སྟེ། །

དེ་ཡང་མྱ་ངན་འདས་པར་བརྗོད། །

dpyad bya rnam par dpyad byas na/_/

rnam dpyod la ni rten yod min/_/ rten med phyir na mi skye ste/_/

de yang mya ngan 'das par brjod/_/

དཔྱད་བྱ་ཆོས་ཐམས་ཅད་བདེན་མེད་དུ་རྣམ་པར་དཔྱད་པར་བྱས་ནས་སྐྱེ་[p.706]Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990)
Slob dpon zhi ba lha and Mkhan po kun dpal. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa. Khreng tu'u: Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang, 1990. Buda by BDRC Logo.jpg
བ་དང་སྐྱེ་མེད་ལ་སོགས་པའི་མཐའ་གང་དུ་མི་གནས་པར་ངེས་པ་ན་དེ་ཡི་ཚེ་རྣམ་དཔྱོད་ལ་ནི་འདིའོ་ཞེས་བཟུང་བའི་རྟེན་ནམ་ཡུལ་ཡོད་པ་མིན་ལ། ནམ་ཞིག་དམིགས་གཏད་ཀྱི་ཡུལ་ལམ་རྟེན་མེད་པ་དེ་ཡི་ཕྱིར་ན་ཡུལ་ཅན་རྣམ་དཔྱོད་དེ་མི་སྐྱེ་སྟེ་སྤྲོས་པ་ཐམས་ཅད་ཞི་བས་ན། རྣམ་དཔྱོད་དེ་ཡང་ཆུ་ལ་རླབས་བཞིན་དུ་ཆོས་ཉིད་ཀྱི་ངང་དུ་རང་བཞིན་གྱི་མྱ་ངན་ལས་དོ། །

TranslationChapter

9

TranslationChapterSubsection

Refutation of the Objection That Analysis Must Result in an Infinite Regress

TranslationCitation

Blankleder, Helena, and Wulstan Fletcher (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech: A Detailed Commentary on Shantideva's Way of the Bodhisattva. By Kunzang Pelden. Boston: Shambhala Publications, 2007.

TranslationPageNumber

369

TranslationPublishedYear

2007

TranslationWikiPage

The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech

Translator

Fletcher, W.; Blankleder, H.

Wylie

དཔྱད་བྱ་རྣམ་པར་དཔྱད་བྱས་ན། །

རྣམ་དཔྱོད་ལ་ནི་རྟེན་ཡོད་མིན། ། རྟེན་མེད་ཕྱིར་ན་མི་སྐྱེ་སྟེ། །

དེ་ཡང་མྱ་ངན་འདས་པར་བརྗོད། །

dpyad bya rnam par dpyad byas na/_/

rnam dpyod la ni rten yod min/_/ rten med phyir na mi skye ste/_/

de yang mya ngan 'das par brjod/_/

dpyad bya chos thams cad bden med du rnam par dpyad par byas nas skye[p.706]Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990)
Slob dpon zhi ba lha and Mkhan po kun dpal. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa. Khreng tu'u: Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang, 1990. Buda by BDRC Logo.jpg
ba dang skye med la sogs pa'i mtha' gang du mi gnas par nges pa na de yi tshe rnam dpyod la ni 'di'o zhes bzung ba'i rten nam yul yod pa min la/_nam zhig dmigs gtad kyi yul lam rten med pa de yi phyir na yul can rnam dpyod de mi skye ste spros pa thams cad zhi bas na/_rnam dpyod de yang chu la rlabs bzhin du chos nyid kyi ngang du rang bzhin gyi mya ngan las do/_/

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1862 - 1943
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Notes First Translation Memory Created by Tsadra Foundation.
RootSourceTransMem 001-Tsadra-BCA-Root-Padmakara
RootTextWikiPage Texts/Bodhicaryāvatāra
ShortTitle Padmakara (2006)
SourceAuthor People/Kun bzang dpal ldan
SourceCitation Kun bzang dpal ldan. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i tshig 'grel 'jam dbyangs bla ma'i zhal lung bdud rtsi'i thig pa. IN byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa. khreng tu'u: si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang, 1990. BDRC W21985
SourcePublishedYear 1990
SourceTitleTibetan བྱང་ཆུབ་སེམས་དཔའི་སྤྱོད་པ་ལ་འཇུག་པའི་ཚིག་འགྲེལ་འཇམ་དབྱངས་བླ་མའི་ཞལ་ལུང་བདུད་རྩིའི་ཐིག་པ།
SourceTitleWylie Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i tshig 'grel 'jam dbyangs bla ma'i zhal lung bdud rtsi'i thig pa
SourceVersionLabel Kunzang Palden (1862 - 1943)
SourceWikiPage Books/Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990)
TranslationCitation Blankleder, Helena, and Wulstan Fletcher (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech: A Detailed Commentary on Shantideva's Way of the Bodhisattva. By Kunzang Pelden. Boston: Shambhala Publications, 2007.
TranslationPublishedYear 2007
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TransMemCreator Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi
TransMemDate 10 June 2022
TransMemID 002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar
TransMemNum 002
TransMemOrigin Tsadra Foundation
TransMemType Commentary