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|English={{bcaverse|Padmakara2006|9.72}}For it is impossible to find an effect, the substantial cause of which has not ceased and is still present, for effects must manifest from causes. According to an alternative explanation, it has been said that it is impossible to find the performance of a causal action occurring in the same moment as the experience of its result, any more than a father and his son can be born simultaneously. Thus, at the time when the effect occurs, the cause has necessarily ceased. Nevertheless, by the ineluctable force of interdependence, it is certain that the effect will happen. Furthermore, this effect ripens wherever the causal conditions are all complete—in the mind stream of a specific person and not elsewhere. It is just as when seeds are sown in the earth. They spring up from the soil, not from rock. It is due to the fact that there is a single stream (one uninterrupted, homogeneous continuity) of the five aggregates, that the perpetrator of an act and the one who enjoys the result are said to be one and the same—which is, of course, the opinion that people commonly hold. | |English={{bcaverse|Padmakara2006|9.72}}For it is impossible to find an effect, the substantial cause of which has not ceased and is still present, for effects must manifest ''from'' causes. According to an alternative explanation, it has been said that it is impossible to find the performance of a causal action occurring in the same moment as the experience of its result, any more than a father and his son can be born simultaneously. Thus, at the time when the effect occurs, the cause has necessarily ceased. Nevertheless, by the ineluctable force of interdependence, it is certain that the effect will happen. Furthermore, this effect ripens wherever the causal conditions are all complete—in the mind stream of a specific person and not elsewhere. It is just as when seeds are sown in the earth. They spring up from the soil, not from rock. It is due to the fact that there is a single stream (one uninterrupted, homogeneous continuity) of the five aggregates, that the perpetrator of an act and the one who enjoys the result are said to be one and the same—which is, of course, the opinion that people commonly hold. | ||
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|TranslationChapterSubsection=The Nonexistence of the Self Is Not Incompatible with the Principle of Cause and Effect | |TranslationChapterSubsection=The Nonexistence of the Self Is Not Incompatible with the Principle of Cause and Effect | ||
|SourceSabcheNumber=2.2.1.2.3.1. | |SourceSabcheNumber=2.2.1.2.3.1. | ||
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|TransMemDate=June 10, 2022 | |TransMemDate=June 10, 2022 | ||
|TransMemCreator=Kiran; Gwen; Marcus; Jeremi | |TransMemCreator=Kiran; Gwen; Marcus; Jeremi | ||
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002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar/1775 ID: 002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar <br> Date: 10 June 2022 <br> Creator: Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation
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| English | "A cause coterminous with its result” Is something quite impossible to see. And only in the context of a single mental stream Can it be said that one who acts will later reap the fruit. |
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| RootTextChapterNum | 9 |
| RootTextVerseNum | 72 |
| SegmentFormat | Commentary |
| SourcePageNumber | 679 |
| SourceSabcheNumber | 2.2.1.2.3.1. |
| SourceSegmentOrder | 1775 |
| Tibetan | རྒྱུ་ལྡན་འབྲས་བུ་དང་བཅས་ཞེས། ། མཐོང་བ་འདི་ནི་སྲིད་མ་ཡིན། ། རྒྱུད་གཅིག་ལ་ནི་བརྟེན་ནས་སུ། ། བྱེད་པོ་སྤྱོད་པོ་ཞེས་བྱར་བསྟན། །rgyu ldan 'bras bu dang bcas zhes/_/ mthong ba 'di ni srid ma yin/_/ rgyud gcig la ni brten nas su/_/ byed po spyod po zhes byar bstan/_/ |
| TranslationChapter | 9 |
| TranslationChapterSubsection | The Nonexistence of the Self Is Not Incompatible with the Principle of Cause and Effect |
| TranslationCitation | Blankleder, Helena, and Wulstan Fletcher (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech: A Detailed Commentary on Shantideva's Way of the Bodhisattva. By Kunzang Pelden. Boston: Shambhala Publications, 2007. |
| TranslationPageNumber | 353 |
| TranslationPublishedYear | 2007 |
| TranslationWikiPage | The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech |
| Translator | Fletcher, W.; Blankleder, H. |
| Wylie | རྒྱུ་ལྡན་འབྲས་བུ་དང་བཅས་ཞེས། ། མཐོང་བ་འདི་ནི་སྲིད་མ་ཡིན། ། རྒྱུད་གཅིག་ལ་ནི་བརྟེན་ནས་སུ། ། བྱེད་པོ་སྤྱོད་པོ་ཞེས་བྱར་བསྟན། །rgyu ldan 'bras bu dang bcas zhes/_/ mthong ba 'di ni srid ma yin/_/ rgyud gcig la ni brten nas su/_/ byed po spyod po zhes byar bstan/_/ |
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| Parameter | Value |
|---|---|
| AuthorLabel | Kunzang Palden 1862 - 1943 |
| DuplicateRootTranslation | false |
| Notes | First Translation Memory Created by Tsadra Foundation. |
| RootSourceTransMem | 001-Tsadra-BCA-Root-Padmakara |
| RootTextWikiPage | Texts/Bodhicaryāvatāra |
| ShortTitle | Padmakara (2006) |
| SourceAuthor | People/Kun bzang dpal ldan |
| SourceCitation | Kun bzang dpal ldan. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i tshig 'grel 'jam dbyangs bla ma'i zhal lung bdud rtsi'i thig pa. IN byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa. khreng tu'u: si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang, 1990. BDRC W21985 |
| SourcePublishedYear | 1990 |
| SourceTitleTibetan | བྱང་ཆུབ་སེམས་དཔའི་སྤྱོད་པ་ལ་འཇུག་པའི་ཚིག་འགྲེལ་འཇམ་དབྱངས་བླ་མའི་ཞལ་ལུང་བདུད་རྩིའི་ཐིག་པ། |
| SourceTitleWylie | Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i tshig 'grel 'jam dbyangs bla ma'i zhal lung bdud rtsi'i thig pa |
| SourceVersionLabel | Kunzang Palden (1862 - 1943) |
| SourceWikiPage | Books/Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990) |
| TranslationCitation | Blankleder, Helena, and Wulstan Fletcher (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech: A Detailed Commentary on Shantideva's Way of the Bodhisattva. By Kunzang Pelden. Boston: Shambhala Publications, 2007. |
| TranslationPublishedYear | 2007 |
| TranslationWikiPage | Books/The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech |
| Translator | People/Blankleder, H.;People/Fletcher, W.;People/Padmakara Translation Group |
| TransMemCreator | Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi |
| TransMemDate | 10 June 2022 |
| TransMemID | 002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar |
| TransMemNum | 002 |
| TransMemOrigin | Tsadra Foundation |
| TransMemType | Commentary |