Translation Memory:007-Tsadra-BCA-Com-LightDayStar/87
007-Tsadra-BCA-Com-LightDayStar/87 ID: 007-Tsadra-BCA-Com-LightDayStar <br> Date: 22 March 2024 <br> Creator: Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation
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| English | Now just as it is impossible for anyone to reply “I accept” to the person adducing the unwanted consequence,54For if they did, they would be admitting defeat and the debate would be over. in the same way, here, the (Shrāvaka) opponent, who is being pushed into replying “I accept,” in fact cannot do so. And Drakar should then consider carefully whether the subsequent rejoinder (“Yet those who are without defilement still behold the influence of karma) is tenably adduced.55Shāntideva’s introduction of the second part of the argument (although the Arhats have no defilement, they still experience the effects of karma) only makes sense if the Shrāvakas accept the first part of the argument (if freedom occurs when defilements are abandoned, freedom must occur immediately). But if, as Drakar says, the consequential argument is that freedom occurs as soon as only manifest defilements are removed, the Shrāvakas would rightly reject such a rejoinder. They would say that there is no pervasion because they themselves have never said that they think that only manifest defilements are removed by the realization of the four truths. And since the consequential argument in the first two lines of stanza 45 is thus refused, Shāntideva’s rejoinder (“Yet those who are without defilement . . .”) becomes irrelevant and pointless. |
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| RootTextChapterNum | 9 |
| SegmentFormat | Commentary |
| SourcePageNumber | 14-2-14b |
| SourceSegmentOrder | 87 |
| Tibetan | མི་འདོད་པར་ཐལ་བ་འཕེན་པ་ལ་འདོད་ལན་འདེབས་མཁན་སུ་ཡང་མི་སྲིད་བཞིན་དུ་འདིར་ཕྱིར་རྒོལ་གྱིས་འདོད་ལན་བཏབ་པའི་དབང་དུ་མཛད་དེ། འདོད་མི་ནུས་ཏེ། ཉོན་མོངས་མེད་ཀྱང་དེ་དག་ལ། །ལས་ཀྱི་ནུས་པ་མཐོང་བ་ཡིན། །ཞེས་འགོད་པ་འདི་འཐད་དམ་ལེགས་པར་དཔྱོད་ཅིག ། |
| TranslationChapter | LDS - Question 3 |
| TranslationPageNumber | 219 |
| Wylie | mi 'dod par thal ba 'phen pa la 'dod lan 'debs mkhan su yang mi srid bzhin du 'dir phyir rgol gyis 'dod lan btab pa'i dbang du mdzad de/_'dod mi nus te/_nyon mongs med kyang de dag la/_/las kyi nus pa mthong ba yin/_/zhes 'god pa 'di 'thad dam legs par dpyod cig_/ |
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| Parameter | Value |
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| AuthorLabel | Mipam Gyatso 1846 - 1912 |
| DuplicateRootTranslation | false |
| RootSourceTransMem | 001-Tsadra-BCA-Root-Padmakara |
| RootTextWikiPage | Bodhicaryāvatāra |
| ShortTitle | Light of the Day Star (2017) |
| SourceAuthor | People/Mi pham rgya mtsho |
| SourceTitleTibetan | བརྒལ་ལན་ཉིན་བྱེད་སྣང་བ། |
| SourceTitleWylie | brgal lan nyin byed snang ba |
| SourceVersionLabel | Mipam Gyatso (1846 - 1912) |
| SourceWikiPage | Texts/Brgal lan nyin byed snang ba |
| TranslationCitation | Fletcher, Wulstan, and Helena Blankleder (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Wisdom Chapter: Jamgön Mipham's Commentary on the Ninth Chapter of "The Way of the Bodhisattva." Boulder, CO: Shambhala Publications, 2017. |
| TranslationPublishedYear | 2017 |
| TranslationWikiPage | Books/The Wisdom Chapter |
| Translator | People/Blankleder, H.;People/Fletcher, W.;People/Padmakara Translation Group |
| TransMemCreator | Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi |
| TransMemDate | 22 March 2024 |
| TransMemID | 007-Tsadra-BCA-Com-LightDayStar |
| TransMemNum | 007 |
| TransMemOrigin | Tsadra Foundation |
| TransMemType | Commentary |