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|English={{bcaverse|Padmakara2006|9.76}}If beings do not exist, it might be asked, who is it that attains buddhahood, and on account of whom is all the effort made? Surely, it will be urged, there is no sense in taking a vow to attain such a goal. The Madhyamaka answer to this is: Yes, on the ultimate level, this is perfectly true. The person who attains such a result, the beings on account of whom the result is gained, and the result that is to be attained—not one of them has true existence in itself. Neither, on the ultimate level, is there any difference between going beyond suffering and not doing so. But in the perception of beings all these things do exist. As we have just said, they are affirmed in ignorance. It is through our ignorant belief in the self that all that pertains to samsara, karmas and afflictive emotions—and likewise the opposite, all that belongs to perfect purity—is produced. For what we call nirvana (literally, going beyond suffering) is nothing other than the exhaustion of the deluded mind’s thoughts. As the Sutralankara says, | |English={{bcaverse|Padmakara2006|9.76}}If beings do not exist, it might be asked, who is it that attains buddhahood, and on account of whom is all the effort made? Surely, it will be urged, there is no sense in taking a vow to attain such a goal. The Madhyamaka answer to this is: Yes, on the ultimate level, this is perfectly true. The person who attains such a result, the beings on account of whom the result is gained, and the result that is to be attained—not one of them has true existence in itself. Neither, on the ultimate level, is there any difference between going beyond suffering and not doing so. But in the perception of beings all these things do exist. As we have just said, they are affirmed in ignorance. It is through our ignorant belief in the self that all that pertains to samsara, karmas and afflictive emotions—and likewise the opposite, all that belongs to perfect purity—is produced. For what we call nirvana (literally, going beyond suffering) is nothing other than the exhaustion of the deluded mind’s thoughts. As the ''Sutralankara'' says, "Liberation is but the elimination of error.” | ||
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|TransMemDate=June 10, 2022 | |TransMemDate=June 10, 2022 | ||
|TransMemCreator=Kiran; Gwen; Marcus; Jeremi | |TransMemCreator=Kiran; Gwen; Marcus; Jeremi | ||
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002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar/1785 ID: 002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar <br> Date: 10 June 2022 <br> Creator: Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation
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| English | "If,” you ask, "there are no beings, who will gain the fruit?” It’s true! It is through ignorance that they are said to be! But for the total vanquishing of sorrow, The goal, which ignorance conceives, should not be spurned. |
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| RootTextChapterNum | 9 |
| RootTextVerseNum | 76 |
| SegmentFormat | Commentary |
| SourcePageNumber | 682 |
| SourceSabcheNumber | 2.2.1.2.3.3. |
| SourceSegmentOrder | 1785 |
| Tibetan | སེམས་ཅན་མེད་འབྲས་སུ་ཡི་ཡིན། ། བདེན་ཏེ་འོན་ཀྱང་རྨོངས་ལས་འདོད། །
སྡུག་བསྔལ་ཉེ་[p.113]Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990) sems can med 'bras su yi yin/_/ bden te 'on kyang rmongs las 'dod/_/
sdug bsngal nye [p.113]Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990) |
| TranslationChapter | 9 |
| TranslationChapterSubsection | A Demonstration That the Self as Label Is Not Refuted |
| TranslationCitation | Blankleder, Helena, and Wulstan Fletcher (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech: A Detailed Commentary on Shantideva's Way of the Bodhisattva. By Kunzang Pelden. Boston: Shambhala Publications, 2007. |
| TranslationPageNumber | 355 |
| TranslationPublishedYear | 2007 |
| TranslationWikiPage | The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech |
| Translator | Fletcher, W.; Blankleder, H. |
| Wylie | སེམས་ཅན་མེད་འབྲས་སུ་ཡི་ཡིན། ། བདེན་ཏེ་འོན་ཀྱང་རྨོངས་ལས་འདོད། །
སྡུག་བསྔལ་ཉེ་[p.113]Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990) sems can med 'bras su yi yin/_/ bden te 'on kyang rmongs las 'dod/_/
sdug bsngal nye [p.113]Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990) |
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| Parameter | Value |
|---|---|
| AuthorLabel | Kunzang Palden 1862 - 1943 |
| DuplicateRootTranslation | false |
| Notes | First Translation Memory Created by Tsadra Foundation. |
| RootSourceTransMem | 001-Tsadra-BCA-Root-Padmakara |
| RootTextWikiPage | Texts/Bodhicaryāvatāra |
| ShortTitle | Padmakara (2006) |
| SourceAuthor | People/Kun bzang dpal ldan |
| SourceCitation | Kun bzang dpal ldan. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i tshig 'grel 'jam dbyangs bla ma'i zhal lung bdud rtsi'i thig pa. IN byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa. khreng tu'u: si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang, 1990. BDRC W21985 |
| SourcePublishedYear | 1990 |
| SourceTitleTibetan | བྱང་ཆུབ་སེམས་དཔའི་སྤྱོད་པ་ལ་འཇུག་པའི་ཚིག་འགྲེལ་འཇམ་དབྱངས་བླ་མའི་ཞལ་ལུང་བདུད་རྩིའི་ཐིག་པ། |
| SourceTitleWylie | Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i tshig 'grel 'jam dbyangs bla ma'i zhal lung bdud rtsi'i thig pa |
| SourceVersionLabel | Kunzang Palden (1862 - 1943) |
| SourceWikiPage | Books/Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990) |
| TranslationCitation | Blankleder, Helena, and Wulstan Fletcher (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech: A Detailed Commentary on Shantideva's Way of the Bodhisattva. By Kunzang Pelden. Boston: Shambhala Publications, 2007. |
| TranslationPublishedYear | 2007 |
| TranslationWikiPage | Books/The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech |
| Translator | People/Blankleder, H.;People/Fletcher, W.;People/Padmakara Translation Group |
| TransMemCreator | Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi |
| TransMemDate | 10 June 2022 |
| TransMemID | 002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar |
| TransMemNum | 002 |
| TransMemOrigin | Tsadra Foundation |
| TransMemType | Commentary |
