011-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Pawo/1177 ID: 011-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Pawo <br> Date: 1 April 2025 <br> Creator: Gwen, Karma Jurmay, Dawa, Migmar;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation

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English

If your philosophical system were to say that pleasure and such arise from cloth and so forth, [conventionally speaking,] this would be appropriate. The reason for this is that once these garments made of cloth and such do not exist, the pleasure of warmth and the like [that would come from them] do not exist either.1777Here, most other commentaries explain: If you say that pleasure arises from cloth, since things like cloth do not actually exist, the pleasure that arises from them does not exist either. [However,] in this case, none of these [things], such as cloth and pleasure, would ever be established, because the cause for such things as pleasure is cloth and so forth, and the cause for such things as cloth is pleasure and so on.1778Moreover, this means that pleasure is both the cause for cloth and its result, which is like saying, “This one person is both my mother and my daughter.” If the Enumerators were to say that this refers to two different pleasures—one being the cause and the other being the result—they would contradict their own basic claim that the constituents, such as lightness/pleasure, are something single.

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9

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129;130;131

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Commentary

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901

SourceSabcheNumber

4.2.2.1.3.1.

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1177

Tibetan

ཁྱོད་ཀྱི་གྲུབ་མཐའ་དེ་བས་ནི་སྣམ་སོགས་ལས་ནི་བདེ་སོགས་སྐྱེའོ་ཞེས་བརྗོད་ན་འོས་པར་འགྱུར་སྟེ་སྣམ་སོགས་ཀྱི་གོས་དེ་མེད་ན་དྲོ་བའི་བདེ་སོགས་དེ་མེད་པའི་ཕྱིར་ནའོ། །དེ་ལྟར་ན་ནི་བདེ་སོགས་ཀྱི་རྒྱུ་སྣམ་སོགས་ཡིན་ལ་སྣམ་སོགས་ཀྱི་རྒྱུ་བདེ་སོགས་ཡིན་པའི་ཕྱིར་ནམ་དུ་ཡང་སྣམ་སོགས་དང་བདེ་སོགས་གང་ཡང་འགྲུབ་པར་མི་འགྱུར་རོ། །

TranslationChapter

9

TranslationChapterSubsection

The Refutation of the Primal Substance of the Enumerators

TranslationPageNumber

766

Wylie

khyod kyi grub mtha' de bas ni snam sogs las ni bde sogs skye'o zhes brjod na 'os par 'gyur ste snam sogs kyi gos de med na dro ba'i bde sogs de med pa'i phyir na'o/_/de ltar na ni bde sogs kyi rgyu snam sogs yin la snam sogs kyi rgyu bde sogs yin pa'i phyir nam du yang snam sogs dang bde sogs gang yang 'grub par mi 'gyur ro/_/

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AuthorLabel Pawo Rinpoche
1504 - 1566
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RootSourceTransMem 001-Tsadra-BCA-Root-Padmakara
RootTextWikiPage Bodhicaryāvatāra
ShortTitle Brunnhölzl 2004
SourceAuthor People/Pawo Rinpoche, 2nd
SourceCitation Dpa' bo gtsug lag phreng ba. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i rnam bshad theg chen chos kyi rgya mtsho zab rgyas mtha' yas pa'i snying po. The Essence of the Immeasurable, Profound and Vast Ocean of the Dharma of the Great Vehicle. Rouffignac, France: Nehsang Samten Chöling, n.d. See Sarnath: vajra vidya institute, 2003.
SourceShortTitle The Essence of the Immeasurable, Profound and Vast Ocean of the Dharma of the Great Vehicle
SourceTitleTibetan བྱང་ཆུབ་སེམས་དཔའི་སྤྱོད་པ་ལ་འཇུག་པའི་རྣམ་པར་བཤད་པ་ཐེག་ཆེན་ཆོས་ཀྱི་རྒྱ་མཚོ་ཟབ་རྒྱས་མཐའ་ཡས་པའི་སྙིང་པོ།
SourceTitleWylie byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i rnam par bshad pa theg chen chos kyi rgya mtsho zab rgyas mtha' yas pa'i snying po
SourceVersionLabel Pawo Rinpoche, 2nd (1504 - 1566)
SourceWikiPage Texts/Spyod 'jug rnam bshad theg chen chos kyi rgya mtsho
TranslationCitation Brunnhölzl, Karl. The Center of the Sunlit Sky: Madhyamaka in the Kagyü Tradition. Including a translation of Pawo Rinpoche's commentary on the knowledge section of Śāntideva's The Entrance to the Bodhisattva’s Way of Life (Bodhicaryāvatāra). Nitartha Institute Series. Ithaca, NY: Snow Lion Publications, 2004.
TranslationPublishedYear 2004
TranslationWikiPage Books/The Center of the Sunlit Sky
Translator People/Brunnhölzl, K.
TransMemCreator Gwen, Karma Jurmay, Dawa, Migmar;Jeremi
TransMemDate 1 April 2025
TransMemID 011-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Pawo
TransMemNum 011
TransMemOrigin Tsadra Foundation
TransMemType Commentary