Translation Memory:007-Tsadra-BCA-Com-LightDayStar/404
007-Tsadra-BCA-Com-LightDayStar/404 ID: 007-Tsadra-BCA-Com-LightDayStar <br> Date: 22 March 2024 <br> Creator: Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation
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| English | Otherwise, if what the Prāsaṅgika texts set forth were no more than the figurative ultimate, it would be necessary to say that, of the Prāsaṅgikas and Svātantrikas, the view of the latter is superior. For everyone must accept that the highest ultimate is the nonfigurative ultimate: the object of the primordial wisdom of the noble ones. And the Svātantrika texts do indeed show that this nonfigurative ultimate is the most perfect ultimate.210While Svātantrikas emphasize the figurative ultimate, as true Madhyamikas, they do not fail to propound, if comparatively briefly, the nonfigurative ultimate. See Shantarakshita, Madhyamakalankara, vv. 67–72. See also Mipham, Teaching to Delight, 113–14. Consequently, if the Prāsaṅgika texts are not talking about this same (nonfigurative) ultimate, and if they are doing no more than propounding the figurative ultimate, it would follow that for them the figurative ultimate is considered to be the highest.211The point that Mipham appears to be making here—as elsewhere in this text—is that it is through the failure to distinguish the different methods of the Prāsaṅgika and Svātantrika approaches that Drakar and his school easily fall into the trap of speaking of the Prāsaṅgika approach in ways that are more appropriate to that of the Svātantrikas. Thus, in Mipham’s view, they fail to appreciate the way in which the Prāsaṅgika approach actually is preeminent. If the Prāsaṅgikas were only to assert the figurative ultimate—which they seem to do, if one follows the Gelugpa interpretation—they would necessarily be inferior to the Svātantrikas, who do assert the nonfigurative ultimate, if only briefly. It should instead be understood that the views of the great charioteers of both Prāsaṅgika and Svātantrika with regard to the highest ultimate are indistinguishable. |
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| RootTextChapterNum | 9 |
| SegmentFormat | Commentary |
| SourcePageNumber | 14-2-61b |
| SourceSegmentOrder | 404 |
| Tibetan | ཐལ་འགྱུར་བའི་གཞུང་ཀུན་ཏུ་དེ་ལྟར་འབྱེད་པའི་བཤད་སྲོལ་མི་འདུག་པ་འདི་ཙམ་གྱིས་ཀྱང་ཤེས་ནུས་ཏེ། གཞན་དུ་ཐལ་འགྱུར་བའི་གཞུང་གིས་རྣམ་གྲངས་པའི་དོན་དམ་ཙམ་ལས་མི་སྟོན་ན། ཐལ་རང་གཉིས་ལས་དགོངས་པ་རང་རྒྱུད་པ་མཐོ་བར་ཁས་ལེན་དགོས་ཏེ། རྣམ་གྲངས་མིན་པའི་དོན་དམ་དེ་ནི་དོན་དམ་མཐར་ཐུག་པ་འཕགས་པའི་ཡེ་ཤེས་ཀྱི་ཡུལ་ཡིན་པར་སུས་ཀྱང་ཁས་ལེན་དགོས་མོད། རང་རྒྱུད་པའི་གཞུང་ན་དེ་དོན་དམ་མཐར་ཐུག་ཏུ་བསྟན་པ་ཡོད་ལ། ཐལ་འགྱུར་བའི་གཞུང་ན་དེ་མེད་པར་རྣམ་གྲངས་པའི་དོན་དམ་ཙམ་མཐར་ཐུག་གི་དོན་དམ་དུ་འདོད་པར་ཁས་ལེན་པའི་ཕྱིར་རོ། །དེས་ན་ཐལ་རང་གི་ཤིང་རྟ་ཆེན་པོ་རྣམས་མཐར་ཐུག་གི་དོན་ལ་དགོངས་པ་དབྱེར་མེད་པར་ཤེས་པར་བྱའོ། ། |
| TranslationChapter | LDS - Question 8 |
| TranslationPageNumber | 293 |
| Wylie | thal 'gyur ba'i gzhung kun tu de ltar 'byed pa'i bshad srol mi 'dug pa 'di tsam gyis kyang shes nus te/_gzhan du thal 'gyur ba'i gzhung gis rnam grangs pa'i don dam tsam las mi ston na/_thal rang gnyis las dgongs pa rang rgyud pa mtho bar khas len dgos te/_rnam grangs min pa'i don dam de ni don dam mthar thug pa 'phags pa'i ye shes kyi yul yin par sus kyang khas len dgos mod/_rang rgyud pa'i gzhung na de don dam mthar thug tu bstan pa yod la/_thal 'gyur ba'i gzhung na de med par rnam grangs pa'i don dam tsam mthar thug gi don dam du 'dod par khas len pa'i phyir ro/_/des na thal rang gi shing rta chen po rnams mthar thug gi don la dgongs pa dbyer med par shes par bya'o/_/ |
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| Parameter | Value |
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| AuthorLabel | Mipam Gyatso 1846 - 1912 |
| DuplicateRootTranslation | false |
| RootSourceTransMem | 001-Tsadra-BCA-Root-Padmakara |
| RootTextWikiPage | Bodhicaryāvatāra |
| ShortTitle | Light of the Day Star (2017) |
| SourceAuthor | People/Mi pham rgya mtsho |
| SourceTitleTibetan | བརྒལ་ལན་ཉིན་བྱེད་སྣང་བ། |
| SourceTitleWylie | brgal lan nyin byed snang ba |
| SourceVersionLabel | Mipam Gyatso (1846 - 1912) |
| SourceWikiPage | Texts/Brgal lan nyin byed snang ba |
| TranslationCitation | Fletcher, Wulstan, and Helena Blankleder (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Wisdom Chapter: Jamgön Mipham's Commentary on the Ninth Chapter of "The Way of the Bodhisattva." Boulder, CO: Shambhala Publications, 2017. |
| TranslationPublishedYear | 2017 |
| TranslationWikiPage | Books/The Wisdom Chapter |
| Translator | People/Blankleder, H.;People/Fletcher, W.;People/Padmakara Translation Group |
| TransMemCreator | Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi |
| TransMemDate | 22 March 2024 |
| TransMemID | 007-Tsadra-BCA-Com-LightDayStar |
| TransMemNum | 007 |
| TransMemOrigin | Tsadra Foundation |
| TransMemType | Commentary |