Translation Memory:007-Tsadra-BCA-Com-LightDayStar/375
007-Tsadra-BCA-Com-LightDayStar/375 ID: 007-Tsadra-BCA-Com-LightDayStar <br> Date: 22 March 2024 <br> Creator: Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation
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| English | Why is this? The mind that experiences an object such as blue is indisputably established for everyone. By contrast, a second mind that experiences the mind apprehending the blue has no existence even on the conventional level.199In simple terms, when an object is encountered, a consciousness that apprehends it arises and the object is known. But how is this object-apprehending consciousness itself known? If a second consciousness were required for this to happen, the result would be a regress to infinity, and no knowledge would be possible. Therefore a “second consciousness” is refuted even on the conventional level; it has no existence whatsoever. For knowledge to happen, it is the first consciousness, the blue-apprehending consciousness, that must be self-illuminating, or self-knowing. On account of its experiencing blue, the consciousness is called the “blue apprehender” and consequently at a later moment when one remembers the blue, it is proper also that one remembers its knowing subject, namely, the apprehender of blue. For at the time when the sensation occurred, the subject and object occurred together, so that when the memory occurs at a later stage, one will recall the knowing subject that was connected with the object by virtue of the fact that they are within the same mind-stream. All this is only according to the unexamined conventional reality of the world. If they are examined on the ultimate level, no experience and no memory will be established. The meaning therefore of the refutation through such arguments is that whereas the mere apprehender of blue as the knowing subject exists, the subsequent knowing or experiencing of blue by another, separate apprehending aspect has no reality even on the conventional level. |
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| RootTextChapterNum | 9 |
| SegmentFormat | Commentary |
| SourcePageNumber | 14-2-57a |
| SourceSegmentOrder | 375 |
| Tibetan | ཇི་ལྟར་ཞེ་ན་ཡུལ་སྔོན་པོ་ལྟ་བུ་མྱོང་བའི་བློ་ནི་ཀུན་ལ་རྩོད་མེད་དུ་གྲུབ་ལ། སྔོ་འཛིན་དེ་ཡང་མྱོང་བའི་བློ་གཉིས་པ་ཞིག་འཇིག་རྟེན་ན་ཐ་སྙད་དུ་མེད་ཀྱང་སྔོན་པོ་མྱོང་བའི་སྟོབས་ཀྱིས་སྔོ་འཛིན་ཞེས་ཐ་སྙད་ཐོབ་པ་དེ་བཞིན་ཕྱིས་སྔོན་པོ་དྲན་པ་ན་དེའི་ཡུལ་ཅན་སྔོ་འཛིན་ཀྱང་དྲན་རིགས་ཏེ་སྔར་མྱོང་དུས་ཀྱང་ཡུལ་ཡུལ་ཅན་གཉིས་པོ་དེ་ཙམ་ཞིག་ཡིན་ལ། ཕྱིས་དྲན་དུས་ཀྱང་ཡུལ་དང་འབྲེལ་བར་ཡུལ་ཅན་དྲན་པ་ཙམ་སྟེ་རྒྱུད་གཅིག་གི་དབང་དུ་བྱས་པའི་ཕྱིར་རོ། །དེ་ཡང་མ་བརྟགས་པ་འཇིག་རྟེན་ཐ་སྙད་ཀྱི་ཚུལ་ཙམ་ལས་དོན་དམ་པར་བརྟགས་ན་མྱོང་དྲན་གང་ཡང་མི་འགྲུབ་ཅེས་པའི་དོན་ཏོ། །དེས་ན་དེ་འདྲའི་ངག་སྦྱོར་དེས་ཡུལ་ཅན་སྔོ་འཛིན་ཙམ་ཞིག་ཡོད་ཀྱི་སླར་ཡང་དེ་རིག་པའམ་མྱོང་བར་བྱེད་པའི་འཛིན་རྣམ་ཡན་གར་བ་ཐ་སྙད་དུ་ཡང་མེད་པར་དགག་པའི་དོན་དུ་སོང་བ་ཡིན་ནོ། ། |
| TranslationChapter | LDS - Question 7 |
| TranslationPageNumber | 286 |
| Wylie | ji ltar zhe na yul sngon po lta bu myong ba'i blo ni kun la rtsod med du grub la/_sngo 'dzin de yang myong ba'i blo gnyis pa zhig 'jig rten na tha snyad du med kyang sngon po myong ba'i stobs kyis sngo 'dzin zhes tha snyad thob pa de bzhin phyis sngon po dran pa na de'i yul can sngo 'dzin kyang dran rigs te sngar myong dus kyang yul yul can gnyis po de tsam zhig yin la/_phyis dran dus kyang yul dang 'brel bar yul can dran pa tsam ste rgyud gcig gi dbang du byas pa'i phyir ro/_/de yang ma brtags pa 'jig rten tha snyad kyi tshul tsam las don dam par brtags na myong dran gang yang mi 'grub ces pa'i don to/_/des na de 'dra'i ngag sbyor des yul can sngo 'dzin tsam zhig yod kyi slar yang de rig pa'am myong bar byed pa'i 'dzin rnam yan gar ba tha snyad du yang med par dgag pa'i don du song ba yin no/_/ |
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| Parameter | Value |
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| AuthorLabel | Mipam Gyatso 1846 - 1912 |
| DuplicateRootTranslation | false |
| RootSourceTransMem | 001-Tsadra-BCA-Root-Padmakara |
| RootTextWikiPage | Bodhicaryāvatāra |
| ShortTitle | Light of the Day Star (2017) |
| SourceAuthor | People/Mi pham rgya mtsho |
| SourceTitleTibetan | བརྒལ་ལན་ཉིན་བྱེད་སྣང་བ། |
| SourceTitleWylie | brgal lan nyin byed snang ba |
| SourceVersionLabel | Mipam Gyatso (1846 - 1912) |
| SourceWikiPage | Texts/Brgal lan nyin byed snang ba |
| TranslationCitation | Fletcher, Wulstan, and Helena Blankleder (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Wisdom Chapter: Jamgön Mipham's Commentary on the Ninth Chapter of "The Way of the Bodhisattva." Boulder, CO: Shambhala Publications, 2017. |
| TranslationPublishedYear | 2017 |
| TranslationWikiPage | Books/The Wisdom Chapter |
| Translator | People/Blankleder, H.;People/Fletcher, W.;People/Padmakara Translation Group |
| TransMemCreator | Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi |
| TransMemDate | 22 March 2024 |
| TransMemID | 007-Tsadra-BCA-Com-LightDayStar |
| TransMemNum | 007 |
| TransMemOrigin | Tsadra Foundation |
| TransMemType | Commentary |
