Translation Memory:006-Tsadra-BCA-Com-WisdomChapter/306
006-Tsadra-BCA-Com-WisdomChapter/306 ID: 006-Tsadra-BCA-Com-WisdomChapter <br> Date: 1 November 2023 <br> Creator: Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation
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| English | The example that the Sāṁkhyas give is invalid. When one says that a man is both father and son, one is merely attaching labels to him on the basis of two distinct relationships. He is not really a father and a son in an ultimate sense and by nature. If by nature he is truly existent as a father, there is no possibility of his being a son because, in that case, his being a father necessarily takes precedence over his being a son. Conversely, if by nature he is truly existent as a son, it is impossible for him to become a father since, in that case, his condition of being a son cannot precede his state of being a father.82In the first case, he can only ever be a father and can never be a son. In the second case, he will only ever be a son. Forever fixed in the state of sonship, he can never (as in the ordinary run of things) be a son first and then become a father. Consequently, this is simply a matter of labeling. As such, we have certainly no intention of refuting it, and in any case, it does not prove what the Sāṁkhyas want it to prove. |
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| RootTextChapterNum | 9 |
| RootTextVerseNum | 63 |
| SegmentFormat | Commentary |
| SegmentOrder | 306 |
| SourcePageNumber | 70 |
| SourceSabcheNumber | 2.2.1.1.2.1 |
| Tibetan | དེའི་དཔེ་མ་གྲུབ་སྟེ་སྐྱེས་བུ་གཅིག་ཕ་དང་བུར་བཞག་པ་ནི་ལྟོས་ས་ཐ་དད་ལ་ལྟོས་ནས་བཏགས་པ་ཙམ་སྟེ་དོན་དམ་པར་རང་གི་ངོ་བོས་ཕ་བུ་གཉིས་ཀར་ཡང་དག་པར་གྲུབ་པ་མེད་ཅིང་། རང་གི་ངོ་བོས་ཕར་བདེན་པར་གྲུབ་ན་དེའི་བུའི་གནས་སྐབས་སུ་འགྱུར་བ་མི་སྲིད་དེ་ཕ་ནི་བུའི་སྔོན་དུ་ཡོད་པས་ཁྱབ་པའི་ཕྱིར། ཡང་བུའི་རང་བཞིན་དུ་བདེན་པར་གྲུབ་ན་ཕར་འགྱུར་མི་སྲིད་དེ་བུ་ཕའི་སྔོན་དུ་མི་སྲིད་པའི་ཕྱིར། དེས་ན་དེ་བཏགས་པ་ཙམ་མོ། །བཏགས་པ་ཙམ་ནི་ངེད་ཀྱིས་ཀྱང་འགོག་པར་མི་འདོད་མོད་དེས་ཁྱོད་ཀྱི་ཞེ་འདོད་འགྲུབ་པར་མི་འགྱུར་རོ། ། |
| TranslationChapter | The Ketaka Jewel |
| TranslationChapterSubsection | A refutation of a conscious self |
| TranslationPageNumber | 137 |
| Wylie | de'i dpe ma grub ste skyes bu gcig pha dang bur bzhag pa ni ltos sa tha dad la ltos nas btags pa tsam ste don dam par rang gi ngo bos pha bu gnyis kar yang dag par grub pa med cing /_rang gi ngo bos phar bden par grub na de'i bu'i gnas skabs su 'gyur ba mi srid de pha ni bu'i sngon du yod pas khyab pa'i phyir/_yang bu'i rang bzhin du bden par grub na phar 'gyur mi srid de bu pha'i sngon du mi srid pa'i phyir/_des na de btags pa tsam mo/_/btags pa tsam ni nged kyis kyang 'gog par mi 'dod mod des khyod kyi zhe 'dod 'grub par mi 'gyur ro/_/ |
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| Parameter | Value |
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| AuthorLabel | Mipam Gyatso 1846 - 1912 |
| DuplicateRootTranslation | true |
| RootSourceTransMem | 001-Tsadra-BCA-Root-Padmakara |
| RootTextWikiPage | Bodhicaryāvatāra |
| ShortTitle | Nor bu ke ta ka (2017) |
| SourceAuthor | People/Mi pham rgya mtsho |
| SourceTitleTibetan | ཤེས་རབ་ལེའུའི་ཚིག་དོན་གོ་སླ་བར་རྣམ་པར་བཤད་པ་ནོར་བུ་ཀེ་ཏ་ཀ། |
| SourceTitleWylie | shes rab le'u'i tshig don go sla bar rnam par bshad pa nor bu ke ta ka |
| SourceVersionLabel | Mipam Gyatso (1846 - 1912) |
| SourceWikiPage | Texts/Nor bu ke ta ka |
| TranslationCitation | Fletcher, Wulstan, and Helena Blankleder (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Wisdom Chapter: Jamgön Mipham's Commentary on the Ninth Chapter of "The Way of the Bodhisattva." Boulder, CO: Shambhala Publications, 2017. |
| TranslationPublishedYear | 2017 |
| TranslationWikiPage | Books/The Wisdom Chapter |
| Translator | People/Blankleder, H.;People/Fletcher, W.;People/Padmakara Translation Group |
| TransMemCreator | Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi |
| TransMemDate | 1 November 2023 |
| TransMemID | 006-Tsadra-BCA-Com-WisdomChapter |
| TransMemNum | 006 |
| TransMemOrigin | Tsadra Foundation |
| TransMemType | Commentary |