Translation Memory:002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar/1422

002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar/1422 ID: 002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar <br> Date: 10 June 2022 <br> Creator: Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation

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English	And therefore I’ll dispel the pain of others, For it is simply pain, just like my own. And others I will aid and benefit, For they are living beings, like my body. Shantideva’s justification for the necessity of eliminating suffering is presented in the form of a probative argument.179Khenpo Kunpel considers that Shantideva has constructed verse 94 in the form of a probative argument (’byor ba; prayoga, sometimes, though less satisfactorily translated as "syllogism”). According to the rules of Indian logic, a probative argument consists of a thesis or statement composed of a subject and predicate, supported by a valid sign or reason, and illustrated by an example. The standard model of a probative argument runs as follows: "This hill has fire on it (thesis) because there is smoke there (sign or reason), just as we find in a kitchen (example).” Following the same format, Shantideva’s argument runs, "I will eliminate the sufferings of others (thesis) because suffering does not benefit them (reason), just as I remove my own discomforts (example).” Given that probative arguments are normally understood to effect a demonstration or proof that "such and such is the case,” to describe the justificatory statement in verse 94 in such terms may seem rather forced. But it is important to realize that for Shantideva, the decision to benefit others is a matter of logical necessity rather than a sense of duty experienced in response to moral exhortation. His thesis is that he will eliminate all the sufferings of others, that is, the sufferings that will not bring them any ultimate benefit. His reason is that their suffering does them no good, and, by way of example, he says that he will remove it just as he removes his own discomforts of hunger, thirst, and so on. By a similar procedure, he says that he will benefit others and make them happy because they are living beings, and, once again by way of example, he will do this in the same way that he attends to the comfort of his own body.
RootTextChapterNum	8
RootTextVerseNum	94
SegmentFormat	Commentary
SourcePageNumber	571
SourceSabcheNumber	3.2.1.2.1.
SourceSegmentOrder	1422
Tibetan	བདག་གིས་གཞན་གྱི་སྡུག་བསྔལ་བསལ། ། སྡུག་བསྔལ་ཡིན་ཕྱིར་བདག་སྡུག་བཞིན། ། བདག་གིས་གཞན་ལ་ཕན་པར་བྱ། ། སེམས་ཅན་ཡིན་ཕྱིར་བདག་ལུས་བཞིན། ། bdag gis gzhan gyi sdug bsngal bsal/_/ sdug bsngal yin phyir bdag sdug bzhin/_/ bdag gis gzhan la phan par bya/_/ sems can yin phyir bdag lus bzhin/_/ Verse 8.94 · Verse tm སྡུག་བསྔལ་བསལ་དགོས་པར་རིགས་པས་བསྒྲུབ་པ་འདི་ལྟར་བདག་གིས་སེམས་ཅན་གཞན་གྱི་ཕུགས་སུ་མི་ཕན་པའི་སྡུག་བསྔལ་ཐམས་ཅད་བསལ་བར་བྱ་བ་ཡིན་ཞེས་དམ་བཅས་ཏེ། དོན་མེད་པའི་སྡུག་བསྔལ་ཡིན་པའི་ཕྱིར་ཞེས་རྟགས་བཀོད་པ་དང༌། དཔེར་ན་བདག་གིས་བཀྲེས་སྐོམ་ལ་སོགས་པའི་སྡུག་བསྔལ་བཞིན་ནོ་ཞེས་མཐུན་པའི་དཔེ་བསྟན་པའོ། །དེ་བཞིན་དུ་བདག་གིས་སེམས་ཅན་གཞན་རྣམས་ལ་ནི་ཕན་བདེ་བསྒྲུབ་པར་བྱ་བ་ཡིན་ཏེ། སེམས་ཅན་ཡིན་པའི་ཕྱིར། དཔེར་ན་བདག་གི་ལུས་ལ་ཇི་ལྟ་བ་བཞིན་ནོ། །
TranslationChapter	8
TranslationChapterSubsection	How to Meditate on Equality
TranslationCitation	Blankleder, Helena, and Wulstan Fletcher (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech: A Detailed Commentary on Shantideva's Way of the Bodhisattva. By Kunzang Pelden. Boston: Shambhala Publications, 2007.
TranslationPageNumber	286
TranslationPublishedYear	2007
TranslationWikiPage	The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech
Translator	Fletcher, W.; Blankleder, H.
Wylie	བདག་གིས་གཞན་གྱི་སྡུག་བསྔལ་བསལ། ། སྡུག་བསྔལ་ཡིན་ཕྱིར་བདག་སྡུག་བཞིན། ། བདག་གིས་གཞན་ལ་ཕན་པར་བྱ། ། སེམས་ཅན་ཡིན་ཕྱིར་བདག་ལུས་བཞིན། ། bdag gis gzhan gyi sdug bsngal bsal/_/ sdug bsngal yin phyir bdag sdug bzhin/_/ bdag gis gzhan la phan par bya/_/ sems can yin phyir bdag lus bzhin/_/ Verse 8.94 · Verse tm sdug bsngal bsal dgos par rigs pas bsgrub pa 'di ltar bdag gis sems can gzhan gyi phugs su mi phan pa'i sdug bsngal thams cad bsal bar bya ba yin zhes dam bcas te/_don med pa'i sdug bsngal yin pa'i phyir zhes rtags bkod pa dang /_dper na bdag gis bkres skom la sogs pa'i sdug bsngal bzhin no zhes mthun pa'i dpe bstan pa'o/_/de bzhin du bdag gis sems can gzhan rnams la ni phan bde bsgrub par bya ba yin te/_sems can yin pa'i phyir/_dper na bdag gi lus la ji lta ba bzhin no/_/
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Parameter	Value
AuthorLabel	Kunzang Palden 1862 - 1943
DuplicateRootTranslation	false
Notes	First Translation Memory Created by Tsadra Foundation.
RootSourceTransMem	001-Tsadra-BCA-Root-Padmakara
RootTextWikiPage	Texts/Bodhicaryāvatāra
ShortTitle	Padmakara (2006)
SourceAuthor	People/Kun bzang dpal ldan
SourceCitation	Kun bzang dpal ldan. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i tshig 'grel 'jam dbyangs bla ma'i zhal lung bdud rtsi'i thig pa. IN byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa. khreng tu'u: si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang, 1990. BDRC W21985
SourcePublishedYear	1990
SourceTitleTibetan	བྱང་ཆུབ་སེམས་དཔའི་སྤྱོད་པ་ལ་འཇུག་པའི་ཚིག་འགྲེལ་འཇམ་དབྱངས་བླ་མའི་ཞལ་ལུང་བདུད་རྩིའི་ཐིག་པ།
SourceTitleWylie	Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i tshig 'grel 'jam dbyangs bla ma'i zhal lung bdud rtsi'i thig pa
SourceVersionLabel	Kunzang Palden (1862 - 1943)
SourceWikiPage	Books/Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990)
TranslationCitation	Blankleder, Helena, and Wulstan Fletcher (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech: A Detailed Commentary on Shantideva's Way of the Bodhisattva. By Kunzang Pelden. Boston: Shambhala Publications, 2007.
TranslationPublishedYear	2007
TranslationWikiPage	Books/The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech
Translator	People/Blankleder, H.;People/Fletcher, W.;People/Padmakara Translation Group
TransMemCreator	Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi
TransMemDate	10 June 2022
TransMemID	002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar
TransMemNum	002
TransMemOrigin	Tsadra Foundation
TransMemType	Commentary