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|Wylie=khyod kyi rtsa ba'i rigs pa nyams te/_gsal ba ni rgyu dus na med par gsar du skye ba ni khyod mi 'dod pa'am khas ma blangs kyang don la de ltar gnas pa nyid de/_gsal ba rgyu dus na yod na gsal {{pagebreak|116| | |Wylie=khyod kyi rtsa ba'i rigs pa nyams te/_gsal ba ni rgyu dus na med par gsar du skye ba ni khyod mi 'dod pa'am khas ma blangs kyang don la de ltar gnas pa nyid de/_gsal ba rgyu dus na yod na gsal {{pagebreak|116|Spyod 'jug sher 'grel ke ta ka (Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang 1993)}} mi gsal gyi khyad par yang bzhag tu med de dang po nas gsal bar thal lo/_/des na rang gis khas blangs nang 'gal lo/_/yang rigs pa dang 'gal te/_gal te rgyu la 'bras bu dngos su gnas na/_zan za ba na khyod mi gtsang ba za bar 'gyur la/_gzhan yang khyod ras nyo ba'i rin gyis ras bal gyi sa bon nyos la de'i nang nas ras phyungs te gos su 'go bar gyis shig dang /_khyod kyi grub mtha' grub bo zhes so/_/ | ||
|Tibetan=ཁྱོད་ཀྱི་རྩ་བའི་རིགས་པ་ཉམས་ཏེ། གསལ་བ་ནི་རྒྱུ་དུས་ན་མེད་པར་གསར་དུ་སྐྱེ་བ་ནི་ཁྱོད་མི་འདོད་པའམ་ཁས་མ་བླངས་ཀྱང་དོན་ལ་དེ་ལྟར་གནས་པ་ཉིད་དེ། གསལ་བ་རྒྱུ་དུས་ན་ཡོད་ན་གསལ་{{pagebreak|116| | |Tibetan=ཁྱོད་ཀྱི་རྩ་བའི་རིགས་པ་ཉམས་ཏེ། གསལ་བ་ནི་རྒྱུ་དུས་ན་མེད་པར་གསར་དུ་སྐྱེ་བ་ནི་ཁྱོད་མི་འདོད་པའམ་ཁས་མ་བླངས་ཀྱང་དོན་ལ་དེ་ལྟར་གནས་པ་ཉིད་དེ། གསལ་བ་རྒྱུ་དུས་ན་ཡོད་ན་གསལ་{{pagebreak|116|Spyod 'jug sher 'grel ke ta ka (Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang 1993)}} མི་གསལ་གྱི་ཁྱད་པར་ཡང་བཞག་ཏུ་མེད་དེ་དང་པོ་ནས་གསལ་བར་ཐལ་ལོ། །དེས་ན་རང་གིས་ཁས་བླངས་ནང་འགལ་ལོ། །ཡང་རིགས་པ་དང་འགལ་ཏེ། གལ་ཏེ་རྒྱུ་ལ་འབྲས་བུ་དངོས་སུ་གནས་ན། ཟན་ཟ་བ་ན་ཁྱོད་མི་གཙང་བ་ཟ་བར་འགྱུར་ལ། གཞན་ཡང་ཁྱོད་རས་ཉོ་བའི་རིན་གྱིས་རས་བལ་གྱི་ས་བོན་ཉོས་ལ་དེའི་ནང་ནས་རས་ཕྱུངས་ཏེ་གོས་སུ་འགོ་བར་གྱིས་ཤིག་དང་། ཁྱོད་ཀྱི་གྲུབ་མཐའ་གྲུབ་བོ་ཞེས་སོ། ། | ||
|SourcePageNumber=116 | |SourcePageNumber=116 | ||
|English=In speaking like this, the Sāṁkhyas are undermining their own main thesis. Although they do not mean, and do not say, that manifestation is absent at the time of the cause, and that it arises newly, what they have just said in fact comes to this. If manifestation is present at the time of the cause, no distinction is made between “manifest” and “nonmanifest” and it follows that | |English=In speaking like this, the Sāṁkhyas are undermining their own main thesis. Although they do not mean, and do not say, that manifestation is absent at the time of the cause, and that it arises newly, what they have just said in fact comes to this. If manifestation is present at the time of the cause, no distinction is made between “manifest” and “nonmanifest” and it follows that (results) are manifest from the beginning, and this contradicts the Sāṁkhyas’ assertion. It also violates common sense. For if, for the Sāṁkhyas, the result is truly manifest in the cause, it follows that when they eat their food, they consume their own excrement! Moreover, with the money they use to buy cloth, let them rather buy seeds of flax, from which the fabric comes, and wear them! That, says Shāntideva, is how they might substantiate their tenet! | ||
|SegmentFormat=Commentary | |SegmentFormat=Commentary | ||
|TranslationPageNumber=179 | |TranslationPageNumber=179 | ||
|RootTextChapterNum=9 | |RootTextChapterNum=9 | ||
|RootTextVerseNum=136 | |RootTextVerseNum=136 | ||
|TranslationChapter=Ketaka Jewel | |TranslationChapter=The Ketaka Jewel | ||
|SourceSabcheNumber=2.2.1.2.4.2.1.1.2.2 | |||
|TranslationChapterSubsection=A refutation of the view that the world is produced by inert, unconscious entities | |TranslationChapterSubsection=A refutation of the view that the world is produced by inert, unconscious entities | ||
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006-Tsadra-BCA-Com-WisdomChapter/541 ID: 006-Tsadra-BCA-Com-WisdomChapter <br> Date: 1 November 2023 <br> Creator: Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation
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| English | In speaking like this, the Sāṁkhyas are undermining their own main thesis. Although they do not mean, and do not say, that manifestation is absent at the time of the cause, and that it arises newly, what they have just said in fact comes to this. If manifestation is present at the time of the cause, no distinction is made between “manifest” and “nonmanifest” and it follows that (results) are manifest from the beginning, and this contradicts the Sāṁkhyas’ assertion. It also violates common sense. For if, for the Sāṁkhyas, the result is truly manifest in the cause, it follows that when they eat their food, they consume their own excrement! Moreover, with the money they use to buy cloth, let them rather buy seeds of flax, from which the fabric comes, and wear them! That, says Shāntideva, is how they might substantiate their tenet! |
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| RootTextChapterNum | 9 |
| RootTextVerseNum | 136 |
| SegmentFormat | Commentary |
| SegmentOrder | 541 |
| SourcePageNumber | 116 |
| SourceSabcheNumber | 2.2.1.2.4.2.1.1.2.2 |
| Tibetan | ཁྱོད་ཀྱི་རྩ་བའི་རིགས་པ་ཉམས་ཏེ། གསལ་བ་ནི་རྒྱུ་དུས་ན་མེད་པར་གསར་དུ་སྐྱེ་བ་ནི་ཁྱོད་མི་འདོད་པའམ་ཁས་མ་བླངས་ཀྱང་དོན་ལ་དེ་ལྟར་གནས་པ་ཉིད་དེ། གསལ་བ་རྒྱུ་དུས་ན་ཡོད་ན་གསལ་[p.117]Spyod 'jug sher 'grel ke ta ka (Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang 1993) |
| TranslationChapter | The Ketaka Jewel |
| TranslationChapterSubsection | A refutation of the view that the world is produced by inert, unconscious entities |
| TranslationPageNumber | 179 |
| Wylie | khyod kyi rtsa ba'i rigs pa nyams te/_gsal ba ni rgyu dus na med par gsar du skye ba ni khyod mi 'dod pa'am khas ma blangs kyang don la de ltar gnas pa nyid de/_gsal ba rgyu dus na yod na gsal [p.117]Spyod 'jug sher 'grel ke ta ka (Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang 1993) |
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| Parameter | Value |
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| AuthorLabel | Mipam Gyatso 1846 - 1912 |
| DuplicateRootTranslation | true |
| RootSourceTransMem | 001-Tsadra-BCA-Root-Padmakara |
| RootTextWikiPage | Bodhicaryāvatāra |
| ShortTitle | Nor bu ke ta ka (2017) |
| SourceAuthor | People/Mi pham rgya mtsho |
| SourceTitleTibetan | ཤེས་རབ་ལེའུའི་ཚིག་དོན་གོ་སླ་བར་རྣམ་པར་བཤད་པ་ནོར་བུ་ཀེ་ཏ་ཀ། |
| SourceTitleWylie | shes rab le'u'i tshig don go sla bar rnam par bshad pa nor bu ke ta ka |
| SourceVersionLabel | Mipam Gyatso (1846 - 1912) |
| SourceWikiPage | Texts/Nor bu ke ta ka |
| TranslationCitation | Fletcher, Wulstan, and Helena Blankleder (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Wisdom Chapter: Jamgön Mipham's Commentary on the Ninth Chapter of "The Way of the Bodhisattva." Boulder, CO: Shambhala Publications, 2017. |
| TranslationPublishedYear | 2017 |
| TranslationWikiPage | Books/The Wisdom Chapter |
| Translator | People/Blankleder, H.;People/Fletcher, W.;People/Padmakara Translation Group |
| TransMemCreator | Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi |
| TransMemDate | 1 November 2023 |
| TransMemID | 006-Tsadra-BCA-Com-WisdomChapter |
| TransMemNum | 006 |
| TransMemOrigin | Tsadra Foundation |
| TransMemType | Commentary |