Translation Memory:011-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Pawo/663
011-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Pawo/663 ID: 011-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Pawo <br> Date: 1 April 2025 <br> Creator: Gwen, Karma Jurmay, Dawa, Migmar;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation
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| English | [Verses 65–67:] You might say, “Just like an actor, this very consciousness of sound is what appears [now] as the consciousness of form.” If this were the case, just like the actor, this consciousness would be impermanent. You might argue, “It is this very [consciousness] that [just] has another nature.” This very same [consciousness of sound] does not exist up to this present point, because this very same [earlier consciousness of sound] is mutually contradictory to the other [consciousness of form that exists now]. Thus, it is refuted that [these two] are one. Then you might agree, “Granted, it is wrong that it is [the same consciousness] that [just] has another nature. It does not exist in this way.” If this is the case, then state how the very nature or entity of this self is. “It is just consciousness.” Then this entails the mistake that it would follow that all beings are one; that is, beings who are released or not released [from cyclic existence] would be completely identical. Furthermore, it follows that the individual who has a mind and the nature that does not have a mind are one and the same. [Here, you] Enumerators say, “We accept that the individual and the nature are the same, since they are equal and identical in being existent.” The Centrists answer with [lines 67cd], “Now, when . . .” This means that there is no particular difference between the individual and the nature in that they have mind or not and that they are both free from progressive or nonprogressive activity. Hence, if, just like the horns of a rabbit, [846] they are utterly nonexistent, then what is their condition of likeness? There is none at all. Therefore, they are also not the same. These [verses] also eliminate [the notion of] generalities, such as cause,[that are something separate from their instances] and [the notion of] sharing the same status.1659Ibid., @075B–076B. |
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| RootTextChapterNum | 9 |
| RootTextVerseNum | 65;66;67 |
| SegmentFormat | Quote |
| SourcePageNumber | 845 |
| SourceSabcheNumber | 3.1.2. |
| SourceSegmentOrder | 663 |
| Tibetan | གཞན་ཡང་སེམས་དང་བཅས་པའི་སྐྱེས་བུ་དང་སེམས་མེད་པའི་སྐྱེས་བུ་གཉིས་གཅིག་པ་ཁོ་ནར་ཐལ་ལོ། །གྲངས་ཅན་པ་ན་རེ་ཤེས་པ་དང་རང་བཞིན་ནི་ཡོད་པར་མཉམ་ཞིང་མཚུངས་པས་གཅིག་པ་འདོད་ཏོ་ཅེ་ན། དབུ་མ་པས་གང་ཚེ་སོགས་སྨོས་ཏེ་སྐྱེས་བུ་དང་རང་བཞིན་གཉིས་སེམས་ཡོད་མེད་ཀྱི་བྱེ་བྲག་གི་ཁྱད་པར་མེད་ཅིང་རིམ་རིམ་མིན་གྱི་བྱེད་པ་དང་བྲལ་བས་རི་བོང་གི་རྭ་ལྟར་མེད་པ་ཁོ་ན་ཡིན་ན་དེའི་ཚེ་འདྲ་བའི་སྐྱེས་བུ་གང་ཞིག་ཡིན་སྟེ་ཅི་ཡང་མེད་ཏོ་དེས་ན་གཅིག་པ་ཡང་མ་ཡིན་ནོ་འདི་དག་གིས་ནི་རྒྱུ་ལ་སོགས་པའི་སྤྱི་དང་རང་གི་མཐུན་པ་དག་ཡང་བསལ་བ་ཡིན་ནོ་ཞེས་བཀྲལ་ཏོ། ། |
| TranslationChapter | 9 |
| TranslationChapterSubsection | The Particular Refutation of the Enumerators’ Assertion |
| TranslationPageNumber | 704 |
| Wylie | gzhan yang sems dang bcas pa'i skyes bu dang sems med pa'i skyes bu gnyis gcig pa kho nar thal lo/_/grangs can pa na re shes pa dang rang bzhin ni yod par mnyam zhing mtshungs pas gcig pa 'dod to ce na/_dbu ma pas gang tshe sogs smos te skyes bu dang rang bzhin gnyis sems yod med kyi bye brag gi khyad par med cing rim rim min gyi byed pa dang bral bas ri bong gi rwa ltar med pa kho na yin na de'i tshe 'dra ba'i skyes bu gang zhig yin ste ci yang med to des na gcig pa yang ma yin no 'di dag gis ni rgyu la sogs pa'i spyi dang rang gi mthun pa dag yang bsal ba yin no zhes bkral to/_/ |
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| Parameter | Value |
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| AuthorLabel | Pawo Rinpoche 1504 - 1566 |
| DuplicateRootTranslation | false |
| RootSourceTransMem | 001-Tsadra-BCA-Root-Padmakara |
| RootTextWikiPage | Bodhicaryāvatāra |
| ShortTitle | Brunnhölzl 2004 |
| SourceAuthor | People/Pawo Rinpoche, 2nd |
| SourceCitation | Dpa' bo gtsug lag phreng ba. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i rnam bshad theg chen chos kyi rgya mtsho zab rgyas mtha' yas pa'i snying po. The Essence of the Immeasurable, Profound and Vast Ocean of the Dharma of the Great Vehicle. Rouffignac, France: Nehsang Samten Chöling, n.d. See Sarnath: vajra vidya institute, 2003. |
| SourceShortTitle | The Essence of the Immeasurable, Profound and Vast Ocean of the Dharma of the Great Vehicle |
| SourceTitleTibetan | བྱང་ཆུབ་སེམས་དཔའི་སྤྱོད་པ་ལ་འཇུག་པའི་རྣམ་པར་བཤད་པ་ཐེག་ཆེན་ཆོས་ཀྱི་རྒྱ་མཚོ་ཟབ་རྒྱས་མཐའ་ཡས་པའི་སྙིང་པོ། |
| SourceTitleWylie | byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i rnam par bshad pa theg chen chos kyi rgya mtsho zab rgyas mtha' yas pa'i snying po |
| SourceVersionLabel | Pawo Rinpoche, 2nd (1504 - 1566) |
| SourceWikiPage | Texts/Spyod 'jug rnam bshad theg chen chos kyi rgya mtsho |
| TranslationCitation | Brunnhölzl, Karl. The Center of the Sunlit Sky: Madhyamaka in the Kagyü Tradition. Including a translation of Pawo Rinpoche's commentary on the knowledge section of Śāntideva's The Entrance to the Bodhisattva’s Way of Life (Bodhicaryāvatāra). Nitartha Institute Series. Ithaca, NY: Snow Lion Publications, 2004. |
| TranslationPublishedYear | 2004 |
| TranslationWikiPage | Books/The Center of the Sunlit Sky |
| Translator | People/Brunnhölzl, K. |
| TransMemCreator | Gwen, Karma Jurmay, Dawa, Migmar;Jeremi |
| TransMemDate | 1 April 2025 |
| TransMemID | 011-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Pawo |
| TransMemNum | 011 |
| TransMemOrigin | Tsadra Foundation |
| TransMemType | Commentary |
