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011-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Pawo/642 ID: 011-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Pawo <br> Date: 1 April 2025 <br> Creator: Gwen, Karma Jurmay, Dawa, Migmar;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation

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You might continue, “Exactly this permanent cognition [that perceives sound] is what is conscious of form when an object is close by, even when it is not conscious of sound.” Then why would it not also hear sound at that time? [It should do so,] because it is permanent as the consciousness of sound. Furthermore, the following [consequence] will fall on you: You would have to hear the sound of a conch shell when you see a white conch shell, because a white conch shell is the support for the sound of this conch shell and [because, according to you,] this permanent consciousness sees the form of the conch shell close by, while at the same time there is no difference between the sound of this conch shell and the form of this conch shell in that the [first of these two] objects is close by and [the other] is far away. You might say, “There is no sound, because no object sound is close by.” In that case, there is also no consciousness of this sound. If there is no horn of a rabbit, [843] where should there be a consciousness of it? This is just the same. If you agree here [by saying], “This is how it is,” then [your] thesis of a permanent consciousness of sound has just collapsed.

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9

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62;63

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842

SourceSabcheNumber

3.1.2.

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642

Tibetan

གཞན་ཡང་དུང་དཀར་མཐོང་བ་ན་དུང་སྒྲ་ཐོས་དགོས་པར་འགྱུར་སྟེ་དུང་དཀར་དེ་དུང་སྒྲའི་རྟེན་ཡིན་ལ་སེམས་རྟག་པ་དེས་ཉེ་བའི་དུང་གཟུགས་མཐོང་ཞིང་དུང་སྒྲ་དང་དུང་གཟུགས་ལ་ཡུལ་ཉེ་རིང་གི་ཁྱད་མེད་པའི་ཕྱིར་ཞེས་པར་ཡང་འཐོབ་བོ། །གལ་སྟེ་ཡུལ་སྒྲ་ཐག་མི་ཉེ་བའི་ཕྱིར་ན་སྒྲ་མེད་ཏོ་ཅེ་ན་དེ་ལྟ་ན་སྒྲ་དེའི་ཤེས་པ་ཡང་མེད་སྟེ་རི་བོང་གི་རྭ་མེད་ན་དེ་ཡི་ཤེས་པ་ག་ལ་ཡོད་པ་ལྟར་རོ། །དེ་ལྟར་ཡིན་མོད་ཅེ་ན། འོ་ན་སྒྲའི་ཤེས་པ་རྟག་པའི་དམ་བཅའ་ཉམས་སོ། །

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9

TranslationChapterSubsection

The Particular Refutation of the Enumerators’ Assertion

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701

Wylie

gzhan yang dung dkar mthong ba na dung sgra thos dgos par 'gyur ste dung dkar de dung sgra'i rten yin la sems rtag pa des nye ba'i dung gzugs mthong zhing dung sgra dang dung gzugs la yul nye ring gi khyad med pa'i phyir zhes par yang 'thob bo/_/gal ste yul sgra thag mi nye ba'i phyir na sgra med to ce na de lta na sgra de'i shes pa yang med ste ri bong gi rwa med na de yi shes pa ga la yod pa ltar ro/_/de ltar yin mod ce na/_'o na sgra'i shes pa rtag pa'i dam bca' nyams so/_/

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AuthorLabel Pawo Rinpoche
1504 - 1566
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RootSourceTransMem 001-Tsadra-BCA-Root-Padmakara
RootTextWikiPage Bodhicaryāvatāra
ShortTitle Brunnhölzl 2004
SourceAuthor People/Pawo Rinpoche, 2nd
SourceCitation Dpa' bo gtsug lag phreng ba. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i rnam bshad theg chen chos kyi rgya mtsho zab rgyas mtha' yas pa'i snying po. The Essence of the Immeasurable, Profound and Vast Ocean of the Dharma of the Great Vehicle. Rouffignac, France: Nehsang Samten Chöling, n.d. See Sarnath: vajra vidya institute, 2003.
SourceShortTitle The Essence of the Immeasurable, Profound and Vast Ocean of the Dharma of the Great Vehicle
SourceTitleTibetan བྱང་ཆུབ་སེམས་དཔའི་སྤྱོད་པ་ལ་འཇུག་པའི་རྣམ་པར་བཤད་པ་ཐེག་ཆེན་ཆོས་ཀྱི་རྒྱ་མཚོ་ཟབ་རྒྱས་མཐའ་ཡས་པའི་སྙིང་པོ།
SourceTitleWylie byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i rnam par bshad pa theg chen chos kyi rgya mtsho zab rgyas mtha' yas pa'i snying po
SourceVersionLabel Pawo Rinpoche, 2nd (1504 - 1566)
SourceWikiPage Texts/Spyod 'jug rnam bshad theg chen chos kyi rgya mtsho
TranslationCitation Brunnhölzl, Karl. The Center of the Sunlit Sky: Madhyamaka in the Kagyü Tradition. Including a translation of Pawo Rinpoche's commentary on the knowledge section of Śāntideva's The Entrance to the Bodhisattva’s Way of Life (Bodhicaryāvatāra). Nitartha Institute Series. Ithaca, NY: Snow Lion Publications, 2004.
TranslationPublishedYear 2004
TranslationWikiPage Books/The Center of the Sunlit Sky
Translator People/Brunnhölzl, K.
TransMemCreator Gwen, Karma Jurmay, Dawa, Migmar;Jeremi
TransMemDate 1 April 2025
TransMemID 011-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Pawo
TransMemNum 011
TransMemOrigin Tsadra Foundation
TransMemType Commentary