Translation Memory:006-Tsadra-BCA-Com-WisdomChapter/364
006-Tsadra-BCA-Com-WisdomChapter/364 ID: 006-Tsadra-BCA-Com-WisdomChapter <br> Date: 1 November 2023 <br> Creator: Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation
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| English | Again the two cases are not the same. The sense of self that is just a label arises through the power of interdependence, and it is impossible for reasoning to prove that it does not appear in the experience of ordinary people. Moreover, there is no need to do so.91It is helpful to remember that the pairing the imputed self versus the innate or coemergent self (brtags pa’i bdag and lhan skyes kyi bdag) is not the same as the pairing the self as a mere designation versus the inherently existent self (btags pa’i bdag and rang bzhin kyis grub pa’i bdag). In the first case, a contrast is made between the principally intellectual belief in the self, which is inculcated by false religious and philosophical tenets, is acquired anew in any given existence, and may be demolished by rational investigation, and, on the other hand, the innate sense of self, which is deeply ingrained in the mind, remains constantly active from one life to the next, and can be dislodged only by prolonged meditative practice. In the second pairing—which is the one referred to here—the conviction that the self is truly real is contrasted with the mere unreflective designation of self, which is no more than a convenient label and is useful in interpersonal relations (when we talk to others) and subjective reflection (when we talk to ourselves). The refutation of this mere designation is unnecessary, since it is not the deep-seated clinging that forms the basis of karma and defilement. It is also impossible, for no amount of reasoning will convince people to stop using the personal pronoun “I.” In comparing these two contrasted pairings of notions of the self, it will be found that the imputed self and the coemergent self (first pairing ) are subdivisions of the supposedly inherently existent self (in the second pairing). On the other hand, the mind that understands the nature of things and meditates on no-self is able to remove[p.148]The Wisdom Chapter |
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| RootTextChapterNum | 9 |
| RootTextVerseNum | 77 |
| SegmentFormat | Commentary |
| SegmentOrder | 364 |
| SourcePageNumber | 83 |
| SourceSabcheNumber | 2.2.1.1.3.3 |
| Tibetan | དེ་གཉིས་མི་མཚུངས་ཏེ་བཏགས་པ་ཙམ་བརྟེན་ནས་འབྱུང་བའི་དབང་གིས་སྣང་བ་ལ་སོ་སྐྱེའི་ངོར་མི་སྣང་བར་སྒྲུབ་བྱེད་ཀྱི་རིགས་པ་མེད་ལ་བཟློག་ཀྱང་མི་དགོས་མོད། རང་བཞིན་གྱིས་གྲུབ་པར་འཛིན་པ་[p.84]Spyod 'jug sher 'grel ke ta ka (Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang 1993) |
| TranslationChapter | The Ketaka Jewel |
| TranslationChapterSubsection | The self as a mere label is not refuted |
| TranslationPageNumber | 147 |
| Wylie | de gnyis mi mtshungs te btags pa tsam brten nas 'byung ba'i dbang gis snang ba la so skye'i ngor mi snang bar sgrub byed kyi rigs pa med la bzlog kyang mi dgos mod/_rang bzhin gyis grub par 'dzin pa [p.84]Spyod 'jug sher 'grel ke ta ka (Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang 1993) |
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| Parameter | Value |
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| AuthorLabel | Mipam Gyatso 1846 - 1912 |
| DuplicateRootTranslation | true |
| RootSourceTransMem | 001-Tsadra-BCA-Root-Padmakara |
| RootTextWikiPage | Bodhicaryāvatāra |
| ShortTitle | Nor bu ke ta ka (2017) |
| SourceAuthor | People/Mi pham rgya mtsho |
| SourceTitleTibetan | ཤེས་རབ་ལེའུའི་ཚིག་དོན་གོ་སླ་བར་རྣམ་པར་བཤད་པ་ནོར་བུ་ཀེ་ཏ་ཀ། |
| SourceTitleWylie | shes rab le'u'i tshig don go sla bar rnam par bshad pa nor bu ke ta ka |
| SourceVersionLabel | Mipam Gyatso (1846 - 1912) |
| SourceWikiPage | Texts/Nor bu ke ta ka |
| TranslationCitation | Fletcher, Wulstan, and Helena Blankleder (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Wisdom Chapter: Jamgön Mipham's Commentary on the Ninth Chapter of "The Way of the Bodhisattva." Boulder, CO: Shambhala Publications, 2017. |
| TranslationPublishedYear | 2017 |
| TranslationWikiPage | Books/The Wisdom Chapter |
| Translator | People/Blankleder, H.;People/Fletcher, W.;People/Padmakara Translation Group |
| TransMemCreator | Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi |
| TransMemDate | 1 November 2023 |
| TransMemID | 006-Tsadra-BCA-Com-WisdomChapter |
| TransMemNum | 006 |
| TransMemOrigin | Tsadra Foundation |
| TransMemType | Commentary |