Translation Memory:002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar/1917

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002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar/1917 ID: 002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar <br> Date: 10 June 2022 <br> Creator: Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi <br> Origin: Tsadra Foundation

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"If,” you ask, "there’s no validity in valid knowledge,

Is not all that it assesses false? And therefore it becomes untenable

To meditate on voidness, ultimate reality.”

The Samkhyas tax the Madhyamikas with the following question. If, because an agent of assessment is deceptive, an object of assessment is not established, and if, as the Madhyamikas say, the assessing consciousness is not a valid (that is, an ultimately valid) cognition, does it not follow that a tenet system assessed by such a consciousness is also deceptive? Consequently, when such an analytical cognition (which is deceptive) makes an assessment saying that, ultimately, on the level of suchness, all is emptiness, and when such emptiness is meditated upon, does not this become an untenable position, for the reason just given?

RootTextChapterNum

9

RootTextVerseNum

138

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Commentary

SourcePageNumber

720

SourceSabcheNumber

2.3.2.1.3.2.

SourceSegmentOrder

1917

Tibetan

གལ་ཏེ་ཚད་མ་ཚད་མིན་ན། །

དེས་གཞལ་བརྫུན་པར་མི་འགྱུར་རམ། ། དེ་ཉིད་དུ་ན་སྟོང་པ་ཉིད། །

སྒོམ་[p.121]Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990)
Slob dpon zhi ba lha and Mkhan po kun dpal. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa. Khreng tu'u: Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang, 1990. File:Buda by BDRC Logo.jpg
པ་དེ་ཕྱིར་མི་འཐད་འགྱུར། །

gal te tshad ma tshad min na/_/

des gzhal brdzun par mi 'gyur ram/_/ de nyid du na stong pa nyid/_/

sgom [p.121]Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990)
Slob dpon zhi ba lha and Mkhan po kun dpal. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa. Khreng tu'u: Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang, 1990. File:Buda by BDRC Logo.jpg
pa de phyir mi 'thad 'gyur/_/

དེ་དག་ན་རེ། གལ་ཏེ་འཇལ་བྱེད་རྫུན་པ་ཡིན་པས་གཞལ་བྱ་མི་འགྲུབ་ན་དབུ་མ་པ་ཁྱོད་འཇལ་བྱེད་ཀྱི་ཤེས་པ་ཚད་མའང་དོན་དམ་པར་ཚད་མར་གྲུབ་པ་མིན་ན། དེས་གཞལ་བའི་གྲུབ་པའི་མཐའ་རྣམ་པར་བཞག་པའང་རྫུན་པར་མི་འགྱུར་རམ། དེ་ལྟར་ན་རྣམ་དཔྱོད་ཀྱི་ཚད་མ་རྫུན་པ་དེས། དེ་ཁོ་ན་ཉིད་དུ་ནའམ་དོན་དམ་པར་སྟོང་པ་ཉིད་དོ་ཞེས་[p.721]Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990)
Slob dpon zhi ba lha and Mkhan po kun dpal. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa. Khreng tu'u: Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang, 1990. File:Buda by BDRC Logo.jpg
གཞལ་ཞིང་བཅད་ནས་སྟོང་ཉིད་དུ་བསྒོམ་པའང་གཏན་ཚིགས་དེ་ཡི་ཕྱིར་མི་འཐད་པར་འགྱུར་རོ་ཞེ་ན། །

TranslationChapter

9

TranslationChapterSubsection

The Actual Refutation of Self-Production: the Main Argument

TranslationCitation

Blankleder, Helena, and Wulstan Fletcher (Padmakara Translation Group), trans. The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech: A Detailed Commentary on Shantideva's Way of the Bodhisattva. By Kunzang Pelden. Boston: Shambhala Publications, 2007.

TranslationPageNumber

378

TranslationPublishedYear

2007

TranslationWikiPage

The Nectar of Manjushri's Speech

Translator

Fletcher, W.; Blankleder, H.

Wylie

གལ་ཏེ་ཚད་མ་ཚད་མིན་ན། །

དེས་གཞལ་བརྫུན་པར་མི་འགྱུར་རམ། ། དེ་ཉིད་དུ་ན་སྟོང་པ་ཉིད། །

སྒོམ་[p.121]Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990)
Slob dpon zhi ba lha and Mkhan po kun dpal. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa. Khreng tu'u: Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang, 1990. File:Buda by BDRC Logo.jpg
པ་དེ་ཕྱིར་མི་འཐད་འགྱུར། །

gal te tshad ma tshad min na/_/

des gzhal brdzun par mi 'gyur ram/_/ de nyid du na stong pa nyid/_/

sgom [p.121]Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990)
Slob dpon zhi ba lha and Mkhan po kun dpal. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa. Khreng tu'u: Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang, 1990. File:Buda by BDRC Logo.jpg
pa de phyir mi 'thad 'gyur/_/

de dag na re/_gal te 'jal byed rdzun pa yin pas gzhal bya mi 'grub na dbu ma pa khyod 'jal byed kyi shes pa tshad ma'ang don dam par tshad mar grub pa min na/_des gzhal ba'i grub pa'i mtha' rnam par bzhag pa'ang rdzun par mi 'gyur ram/_de ltar na rnam dpyod kyi tshad ma rdzun pa des/_de kho na nyid du na'am don dam par stong pa nyid do zhes[p.721]Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990)
Slob dpon zhi ba lha and Mkhan po kun dpal. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa. Khreng tu'u: Si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang, 1990. File:Buda by BDRC Logo.jpg
gzhal zhing bcad nas stong nyid du bsgom pa'ang gtan tshigs de yi phyir mi 'thad par 'gyur ro zhe na/_/

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1862 - 1943
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RootTextWikiPage Texts/Bodhicaryāvatāra
ShortTitle Padmakara (2006)
SourceAuthor People/Kun bzang dpal ldan
SourceCitation Kun bzang dpal ldan. Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa'i tshig 'grel 'jam dbyangs bla ma'i zhal lung bdud rtsi'i thig pa. IN byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa. khreng tu'u: si khron mi rigs dpe skrun khang, 1990. BDRC W21985
SourcePublishedYear 1990
SourceTitleTibetan བྱང་ཆུབ་སེམས་དཔའི་སྤྱོད་པ་ལ་འཇུག་པའི་ཚིག་འགྲེལ་འཇམ་དབྱངས་བླ་མའི་ཞལ་ལུང་བདུད་རྩིའི་ཐིག་པ།
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SourceVersionLabel Kunzang Palden (1862 - 1943)
SourceWikiPage Books/Byang chub sems dpa'i spyod pa la 'jug pa rtsa ba dang 'grel pa (1990)
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TransMemCreator Migmar;Gwen;Marcus;Jeremi
TransMemDate 10 June 2022
TransMemID 002-Tsadra-BCA-Com-Nectar
TransMemNum 002
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